Star Trek Movie

Re: Star Trek Movie

feeds@yuku.com (Bagheera) — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:00:47 GMT

I gotta go with Rickssg on this one. Great analysis sir. And very plausible.

Re: Star Trek Movie

feeds@yuku.com (Ric Easton) — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:58:33 GMT

It has been a Trek tradition over the last 40 plus years to explain away inconsistencies, nitpicks and the like. Why did Spock seem so different from Pike's command to Kirk's command a decade later? Why didn't all powerful Gary Mitchell know that Kirk's middle initial was T instead of R? How did Khan remember Chekov? What happened to the Organian Peace treaty? It's questions like these that have spurned on many a novel and fan fiction over the years.

Oh, and...

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feeds@yuku.com (cptpants) — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:30:20 GMT

rickssg, I think that in a round about kind of way you've finally hit teh nail on the head. Quibbles about the movie, and what it means in the larger setting of Trek? There are many.
But I think the spirit, and as you said indeed the premise of Trek is there in the new movie. And really, to me that counts more than a bit of contemporary Rock & Roll, cars, etc.
We can't know what the music would be like in the future after all.
I think Abrams captured the...

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feeds@yuku.com (rickssg) — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:42:35 GMT

Yes, I'm using made-up "facts," except for the items for which I am using plausible speculation. I think the critical thing is who made up these "facts." I did not make up the inherent violence/hostility of the Romulans - blame that one on Gene Roddenberry. I also did not make up dilithium; I only speculated as to where it might be obtained. Of course, this is only one of several possible reasons for the emergence of a cavern in the middle of Iowa. We could have tested...

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feeds@yuku.com (il postino 69) — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:35:06 GMT

As an explanation for the Romulan mining ship's weapons, the prequel comic explained that off as Romulans reverse engineering Borg technology and testing it on the mining ship after Romulus had been destroyed.

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feeds@yuku.com (Ric Easton) — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:39:52 GMT

Toolman... Me thinks your willing suspension of disbelief, ain't that willing! As for Rick's theories, I find all of them plausible! And heck, I'm listening to some 200 year old music right now (Mozart).

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feeds@yuku.com (toolmanohmi) — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:04:30 GMT

You've got to be kidding me, right? "Romulans are more inherently violent...", dilithium mining, etc. etc. You're using made-up fantasy "facts" to support your stance? Come on! It's....a....MOVIE!! I appreciate your feedback, it's all good fun, I was merely grabbing onto the few things that ARE (somewhat) "real" to point out how Hollywood stretches things a bit too far. Kinda funny that we swallow "transporter" technology and "warp...

Re: Star Trek Movie

feeds@yuku.com (rickssg) — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:31:59 GMT

OK, here is my attempt at rebuttal to your complaints, toolmanohmi:

1) A 250-ish-year-old corvette that still runs? Why not? Aren't there some 100-year-old cars still around that still run? I'd say that the only reason we don't have 250-year-old cars now that still run is that they had not been invented that long ago. Also, people build replicas of classic cars from kits (my last manager at work built and drove a Shelby Cobra). Who's to say that the Corvette in...

Re: Star Trek Movie

feeds@yuku.com (toolmanohmi) — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:00:46 GMT

Enjoyable and thoroughly entertaining...but frankly, some incredibly stupid areas. A 250-ish year old Corvette that still runs? On gasoline??? Will it still be available then? A quarry/gorge that deep in Iowa? 200+ year old rock music being actively played? A 17 year old at the helm of the ship? A mining ship (admittedly from the 100 years into the future) that kicks the crap out of anything Starfleet has? (I'm trying to picture a 2009 Great Lakes ore boat kicking the crap out of anything...

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feeds@yuku.com (cptpants) — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 22:51:56 GMT

I'd just like to say that even though I liked the whole Star Trek series, it was time to wrap it up. I even liked Enterprise because it tried to reboot the franchise, but the loyal dyed in the wool trekkies hated it because of the same reasons they hated this movie. It (Enterprise) ultimately failed I think because only trekkies wathced it, and that was the problem.
This new movie was a chance to do the same thing but get it out there for the masses - to introduce the...

Re: Star Trek Movie

feeds@yuku.com (Ric Easton) — Wed, 27 May 2009 06:07:53 GMT

Rick,

I would say the main event that altered the timeline was the fate of the planet Vulcan. But, also Kirk's birth and younger years were now very different. I don't think Nero had any idea that Kirk's father was on the ship until well after the event happened. It was just bad luck for the elder Kirk that Nero happened upon his ship.

As for Spock and Uhura... well... If you remember Spock's behavior in "The Cage" he seemed much more emotional....

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feeds@yuku.com (capriker) — Tue, 26 May 2009 11:59:22 GMT

I think the Corvette scene was used to convey that young Kirk had a more tumultuous time growing up and through the phone conversation establish that he didn't get along with is step-dad. It was very quick though. I do agree that the Uhura/Spock thing was just a plain change. There are issues with the movie (timing of who is where when didn't always match up. Instead of having careers before serving on Enterprise, they all apparantly now just start working together out of the academy....

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feeds@yuku.com (rickssg) — Tue, 26 May 2009 10:33:42 GMT

Also, the Romulans apparently hired George Lucas to design their ships. Lots of places to fall to your doom.

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feeds@yuku.com (rickssg) — Tue, 26 May 2009 10:12:17 GMT

I saw the movie twice this weekend, which is saying something. The last movie that I paid theater prices for twice was the first Narnia movie, and that was only at the insistence of my wife and kids. I grew up watching re-runs of the original Star Trek series and I remember going over to my friend's house to watch the premier of TNG. I watched much of DS9, but could never really get into Voyager or Enterprise. So there is my fandom background.

Now for the movie (I will not shy...

Re: Star Trek Movie

feeds@yuku.com (capriker) — Wed, 20 May 2009 10:20:19 GMT

I must say I enjoyed this movie thouroughly. While there was a heavy dose of action, I don't find that offensive. TWOK and First COntact were essentially action movies and STVI was a murder mystery/action movie.

It was also an origin story and had to introduce these characters to a new set of fans and open the door for franchise who was starting to get a very old fan base.

I must say that I do take umbridge to the notion that any 'TRUE trek fan'...

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feeds@yuku.com (MJPollard) — Tue, 19 May 2009 15:19:50 GMT

Saw it over the weekend. Thoroughly enjoyed it, with only a few complaints (Engineering is not a brewery; Ben Cross won't make me forget Mark Lenard any time soon; Nero ain't no Khan, or even Dr. Tolian Soren; JJ, lay off the lens flares!). Chris Pine managed to nail James T. Kirk (no pun intended!) without resorting to a Shatner impersonation. Zachary Quinto is a fine Spock (though his smoother voice takes a little getting used to compared to Nimoy). Karl Urban...

Re: Star Trek Movie

feeds@yuku.com (Bagheera) — Tue, 19 May 2009 10:55:35 GMT

ZIZ62266 wrote:
I was talking with a bunch of friends about it over the weekend. I told them "Hey, complain and nitpick all you want but when's the last time you turned on the TV and it said 'Star Trek is the #1 movie in America!'?"

Well, can't argue with you there ZIZ.

I think the main thing for "some" of us is we don't like or embrace change very well. I...

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feeds@yuku.com (ZIZ62266) — Mon, 18 May 2009 21:06:00 GMT

I was talking with a bunch of friends about it over the weekend. I told them "Hey, complain and nitpick all you want but when's the last time you turned on the TV and it said 'Star Trek is the #1 movie in America!'?"

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feeds@yuku.com (darkwolf) — Sun, 17 May 2009 19:34:47 GMT

Gonna see it soon! From what I read, it had a great w/e at the cinemas. Beaten by Angels & Demons. As for the complaints about Kirk getting the Captain's chair so quickly, am I right to recall he was meant to be youngest starship captain in the original series anyway?

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feeds@yuku.com (hometheater) — Sun, 17 May 2009 11:47:18 GMT

I have been a lifelong Trekkie, and liked this film. Not the best Star Trek, but far from the worst. I would rank it 4th out of 11. My list goes like this (best to worst): 2,8,1,11,9,4,3,7,6,5,10. Any movie that can bring it back from Nemesis, HAS to go in a completely different direction. People that say "my trek is dead" or that it's "taken over our beloved franchise" seems to forget that in 42 years of this franchise - there has been a lot of CRAP along...

Star Trek Movie

feeds@yuku.com (phideaux1) — Fri, 08 May 2009 07:57:07 GMT

Anyone else go see it last night? I gotta say, I was pretty impressed. I know it was different, but they really did a good job of drawing new fans into Trek. Even my brother, who has always done whatever he could to avoid Trek, really liked it. I guess if they found a way to revive the series, I'm on board.